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« on: October 23, 2017, 12:36:18 PM »

hi,
i have been landed with 16kg of EII floppies including k-muse Richard Burmer collection and Northstar.  Now many of the Northstar sounds i can see (and can recall) are to be found in Northstar Phase EIII library at full rate 48khz but the Burmer ones look to be a bit more obscure.  Then there are lots of creative sampling, personal floppies.

Believe they are a film composers library

Has anyone got the means or ability to image and archive these?

Floppies are immaculate, no fungus etc.

I'm in the United Kingdom but i don't have an EII or DPX right now.  I do have SoundDesigner and serial connections via vintage macs.

If the sounds are already archived it would be good to know, so i can scrap these disks.

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 07:24:44 AM »

There are 18 disks archived for the Burmer collection at the shared box.com folder... looks incomplete by the numbering of them. How many do you have?

I would personally hate to see any of these disks tossed especially the personal ones. Creating quality samples on the EII is a sort of lost skill and think any vintage disks, personal or not, should be archived if possible. I'd gladly help you out, although I am in the States... PM me if you can.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 08:03:47 AM »

Pm
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2017, 05:40:06 AM »

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ok so there are definitely Burmer disks that are not on the archive. for example

'African 1' disks 1 to 5
'The Bill Summers World Music Collection'

Shekere, Maria, Dahomey, Hindewu, and Djembe

So next step is how to get them imaged.
I have an old PC with a 5 1/4 that i used to image PPG disks. is there any dos software that does likewise for EII?

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2017, 07:15:48 AM »

I think it can be done with EMXP, but esynthesist should know. If you need help, let me know!
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2017, 08:18:04 AM »

What operating system are you running on your setup? if you have XP or later you can use EMXP http://www.emxp.net/ If you need the true DOS version - EMX i believe i have a file somewhere.. let me know...
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 12:28:29 PM »

hi
my 5 1/4 only works fully on my IBM Ps/2 with dos.  The EMXP manual suggests you need Kyroflux.  Is there any ancient dos software for Emu EII imaging like there is for PPG?
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2017, 01:35:57 PM »

there is a native DOS version of EMXP called EMX.. i'm asking around for a copy of it currently... stay tuned. Does anyone else have a copy of this program to share?
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2017, 01:38:48 PM »

If you have an EII and a old Mac you can transfer it to the Mac and copy the files from the Mac to your PC.
Else you can use an EMuSer and EMXP.

If you don't have an EII and want to read the disks directly into the PC you need an Kyroflux controller.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2017, 07:26:34 AM »

So I'm thinking maybe all you would need is to install the following Omnidisk floppy driver to your computer. http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=acorn8bitwebring;id=10;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eshlock%2Eco%2Euk%2FUtils%2FOmniFlop%2FOmniFlop%2Ehtm

Not sure you would even need the EMX DOS software unless you wanted to convert the EII banks into something else.. which is not what we're attempting here. Check out the above link...
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2017, 02:33:52 AM »

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So I'm thinking maybe all you would need is to install the following Omnidisk floppy driver to your computer
No, that won't work.
Omniflop does not support EII floppy disks.
That's simply because the disk format is not even supported by standard PC hardware (more specifically by the floppy disk controllers in PCs). EII have a very exotic disk encoding scheme, with non-standard track/sector sizes and non-standard track/sector headers.
So as Wolfram says, you need a more advanced floppy controller connected to your PC. That's the kryoflux.
It's a good investment, it works great. I use it for both reading and writing Emulator-I and Emulator-II floppy disks.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2017, 08:01:15 AM »

Thanks for the response! makes sense now.
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