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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2009, 02:16:01 PM »

Thanks for these precisions.
Now, this won't be sufficient because he has as well to have a hard disk to install the software residing on the diskette on the hard disk of the EIIIXP !
Something else : I am not at all an "expert" of the EIII XP because I went off this business when the 4K appeared, along with the Proteus, Morpheus and the damn keyboard, I forgot what it was, a real shit.
In other words, its when E-Mu became a shitty company with 500 vice-presidents and young wankers with suits and attache-cases, just like it happened with Kurzweil.

He is apparently from Stotland and some important offices are over there, in Edimburgh, in Musselburgh, in fact.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2009, 02:47:55 PM »

Thank you very much for that.

I bought an IBM USB Floppy Drive hoping it would work with Omniflop - but it actually damaged my PC, causing the Blue Screen of Death, and major headaches to follow.

I shall to locate a computer store with an old PC capable of writing floppy disks.

The Emax II disk at least shows that the Floppy Drive on the EIIIXP is working, and trying to read.

Perhaps the easiest way is to order a disk from Route 66.

This EIIIXP was used by New Order on many of their hits, so it would be nice to get it back going again!!

I dealt with the Musselburgh office on many occasions over the years. I bought many items direct from them in the nineties!!

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2009, 04:04:29 PM »

You must have been in contact with George BELL or Roy GOUDIE, nice people !

But still, you must have a hard disk inside your EIII XP !!!!
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2009, 11:07:00 PM »

Take pictures, there must be a connector somewhere.
If there is a SCSI plug in the back, you may see, at the inside of this connector, where it leads.
Well, never mind, take pictures and put them here, I'll show you.
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2009, 04:31:56 AM »

Here is a photo showing the SCSI connectors inside (at back right).

There is definitely no HD. The Floppy drive is in the right foreground.

Getting an older external SCSI 1 device might not be that easy now. I have several external SCSI 2 and SCSI 3 devices, but I would doubt the EIIIXP will mount them.

I have a couple of SCSI 1 CD-Rom drives which I connected, with an original Emu CD-Rom disk inserted to see if it would boot, but no.

At least it's got 32Mb RAM, and if I can get a boot floppy from somewhere, it will be operational (I think!)



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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2009, 05:59:45 AM »

Please make another picture with a more vertical angle (60° or 45°)
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 06:59:49 AM »

Here are another two;


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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2009, 07:01:26 AM »

another...


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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2009, 09:06:36 AM »

Okay... You need :

A metal plate, done in the way to allow the mounting of the hard disk inside the machine (see the standoffs)

An old hard disk (like the Quantum ones) aluminium look, wich where on Apple computers. These ones are great because they need little energy.

A 50 conductor flat SCSI cable

A 50 pin Active terminator wich fits into the external SCSI connectors (at the outside)

Instructions :

Make the plate

Take away the resistor packs wich are on the disk and before doing it, read first the instructions lower, concerning the resistor packs wich are in the machine.
Stick the disk resistor packs on the hard disk cover with an adhesive tape and take care of not obstructing the air input of the disk (little hole)
Put the disk in SCSI ID anything except : 0-1-3-7
This because :
0 is for Mac internal disk
3 is the CD Rom
7 is the Mac CPU board
1 is just to piss you off




Mount the disk on the plate
Mount the equiped plate into the machine

Inside the machine :

Take away the three resistor packs and stick them with adhesive tape INSIDE THE MACHINE (so you won't loose them).
Note that they are oriented, you CANNOT turn them around and neither swap them around. Stick them in a logical way
So, BE CAREFULL OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING

Plug the flat cable between the internal SCSI connector pins of the machine and the connector of the hard disk. The red wire of the cable is pin n°1, be carefull to respect this orientation on both sides.

Plug the power supply MOLEX connector into the disk

Plug the active terminator into the "A" SCSI connector (at the outside)

You are ready to go.

Prepare the machine in a way that you can see IMMEDIATELY on the display of something is wrong.

Power up

If the display is blank, if there is a whistle sound coming from the power supply or it blinks, STOP IMMEDIATELY and send a message here.











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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2009, 09:08:49 AM »

Missed a picture


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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2009, 09:21:23 AM »

Thank you so very much for all your help.

I will go and locate a suitable hard drive. I used to own a couple of smaller SCSI 1 Quantum drives for previous machines.

I take it the machine will not simply work "as is" with a boot floppy, but rather it's needs to run off an internal SCSI disk?

I take it you do this for a living in the USA ??

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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2009, 09:38:55 AM »

I will go and locate a suitable hard drive. I used to own a couple of smaller SCSI 1 Quantum drives for previous machines.

It would be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT !!!!!!

I take it the machine will not simply work "as is" with a boot floppy, but rather it's needs to run off an internal SCSI disk?

No, it should work only with a boot floppy, but imlagine what a pain in the ass ...

I take it you do this for a living in the USA ??

What do you mean ?
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2009, 09:50:31 AM »

What I mean is, your technical knowledge is so very-good that I would imagine you could make your living from designing / building / servicing Pro Audio equipment!!

 
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2009, 09:59:50 AM »

I have been doing this for twenty-five years...
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2009, 10:04:55 AM »

Well, thank you again my friend.

I'll let you know how I get on with the mod.

Best Regards, Chris.
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