E-mu Emulator Sampler User Forum for the EIII EII EI and EIII XP

this is second part of tread started in EIII technical forum!!!
This might work for EII, SP12, Emax.... Question for tech guys here !!!!!!

visual area on my SP 12 and EII displays are 16mm x62mm

http://cgi.ebay.de/ART-New-LCD-2x16-CHIP-ON-GLASS-3mm-NT7603-standard_W0QQitemZ220422813355QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_212?hash=item33523936ab&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.de/ART-New-LCD-2x16-with-LED-b-l-W1B-HD44780-standard_W0QQitemZ220428646287QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_212?hash=item335292378f&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.de/ART-New-LCD-2x16-with-NO-b-l-HD44780-standard_W0QQitemZ220428645241QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_212?hash=item3352923379&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.de/ART-New-LCD-2x16-H-with-LED-b-l-Y-G-HD44780-H-36mm_W0QQitemZ220428595606QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_212?hash=item3352917196&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.de/ART-New-LCD-2x16-with-LED-b-l-G-KK-HD44780-Blackline_W0QQitemZ220428660644QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_212?hash=item3352926fa4&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50


http://cgi.ebay.de/ART-New-LCD-2x16-with-LED-b-l-Y-G-HD44780-standard_W0QQitemZ220428645391QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_212?hash=item335292340f&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Did you get anywhere on these?

Been searching for replacement LCD myself today. Only ones I could find had slightly different sizes and viewing areas to the original (by mm) and with no backlights. After a search here and on the Yahoo EII Users site I've not been able to find details of an available replacement.

Had a reply from SP1200 LCD replacing engineer in US (www.forat.com):

'The ones that we use have LED backlight (Blue/ White text) same as what you see offered for the SP1200 on our site at www.forat.com/service however they are not direct replacements and require mods. There's someone selling the original SP1200 displays on eBay and I think it should work on the EII as well':

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MU-EMU-SP1200-SP-1200-SP-1200-Replacement-Display-/290475275179?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a1acf3ab


$104 is steep but attempting to clarify the make/model of these with the seller. Also found someone in UK that appears to have replaced theirs and will update if/when further details come back.

Are you guys replacing the Display because it does not work, or is the back light dead?
   I got my EII with a dead back light, so I ordered a blue EL Foil for about $15 and replaced it my self. I will post a picture once I get home. If you are not careful you can damage the entire display. The first time I did it there was a dead line on the display, but since the first back light wasn't working I got a replacement. When I put it all back together the second time it worked properly. The back light is not perfect, but for a first timer I think it works fine.

decided to replace most of displays in my studio equipment that are dead or allmost at end of life ..
most synths is now hard to edit due ageing of backlight on displays so....

So I started with EMU - SP12

ordered display from Ebay for cca 5$ ...that displays need some work to be instaled in SP12 so here is picture how was that with old display and how it looks with New one!

Needed some small main PCB modification on SP12 control board, used 5v for led backlight from LEDs on SP12!!!
only problem is wiring!!!

on SP12 pcb its 1-14
and on Display is 14-1 so wires need too be crosed .. (or flat cable if you use it!!!)
-on pin 3 is LCD contrast and i used 10K multitrim turn pot that works just fine to adjust display !!!



Before
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/5122568849_46951447f6_b.jpg)

AFTER
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1410/5122570229_15383803bf_b.jpg)
 

Removed hi voltage from system.. made by inverter for backlight in original Display, also no more HI frequency sound from inverter!!!

Looks clean and will live a long life

display really looks like this on picture and its fun to work normal again on SP12 now !!
(http://www.sure-electronics.net/mcu,display/DE-LM003_1.jpg)
5$ is bargin since guys on web ask for backlight cca 25$ ..

this will fit (with some small work) SP12, SP1200, EII!!! I checked that!!! and wont fit into EMAX!!!!!!

 NEVER AGAIN DISPLAY WITH El Foil!!!

this LED rocks!!!

WILL DO EII soon!!!

I started with SP12.. will post some pictures :)

GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

Her roginator,

  Yeah let us see the display in action. How is the viewing angle? The original SP12/SP1200/EII have a very small viewing angle, is the display you are using better? Where are the red and black wires that go by the Volume Knob connected to? Are they connected on the LCD Inverter leads?

Thanks.

ok


1. NO MORE BACKLIGHT INVERTER/// 5V from LED on pcb.. BACKLIGHT on this displays is LED!!!! no more backlight problem !!!
   and no more inverter sound!!!  haahaha- hi pitched sine wav is gonne

2. Viewing angle is far better + you see display from one side of studio to other !!! .. dunno how to make Picture of that display BUT TRUST ME ITS SAME AS ON PICTURE I USED FROM NET!!!!
 tell me how to shot picture of that display and i do it!!! .. Im no photo expert so all i get is LIGHT when i shot it with camera!! :(

before was like this you all know that ... and then backlight started to fade
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqXNpwOplwcGxENXq8ZZk7hT6zZUrRjGgmH2-K122XkOmAMOg&t=1&usg=__EWpqq_kRhPlsSp1IpamaDmnsWXs=)

after
(http://www.sure-electronics.net/mcu,display/DE-LM003_1.jpg)




D

 

@Dimensional Space... DUDE im no photo PRO!!! so have in mind .. its not a big deal if i cant make a good photo ..couse i believe good photo pro cant do what i do best!!!



(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1231/5133005112_c1a85ec1df_b.jpg)

 :o

COOL!!  :o

HEY THANX FOR PICTURES!!!

Well if you ask me....

I would not use hot glue!!!!
it can be made far more easy!!!

OK let me explain!!!

Ill make some pictures soon!!!!

WHY PPL PAY 175 $ really dunno since first next cheeper thing is to get NORITAKE VFD that is 50+$ and fit without MODS!!!

4 reasons WHY PEOPLE PAY MORE.. and they must pay a lot!

1. they dont know tricks (tricks are expensive to learn)
2. ppl dont have experience in electronics
3. no time to do it
4. or they are lazy!!!

first 3 we can fix but fourth kinda ppl .. we cant help hahahah

I spent 2 hours working on display and i have some experience .. so 2 hours of work + parts and you are on 120$ ... + some VAT .....

I agree that price is ok for srvice to do that job .. but we can DIY that stuff to!!! .... that cut price a lot!

Dimensional Space please don't ask members of the forum for something, and then immediately follow it up with more questions without offering more useful knowledge or $ to get the hardware/mod completed.  Do a little more work on your own to become a tech or pay a tech. 

"Dimensional Space please don't ask members of the forum for something, and then immediately follow it up with more questions without offering more useful knowledge or $ to get the hardware/mod completed.  Do a little more work on your own to become a tech or pay a tech. "


Rokuez,

Are you kidding me?  Are you not on the Yahoo EII forum?  I just did all the research, paid for the Crystal Fontz LCD 84x44, 16x2, spent the gas, paid my tech and my research continues.      I am organizing a group buy around the world. 
I can easily end it too.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/monolism/DSCF4400.jpg)


That's a little beyond the call of duty of moderation.    You're trying to police how a person seeks information?  Now you guys are just throwing your administrative powers around at this point.   That's one thing to tell someone to watch their language, and then it's another with the above feedback.

Hi i am new here and new to EMU SP12 Turbo
that i am expecting to arrive soon ( bought on Ebay)

the SP12 Turbo i am talking about has now light on the display from the picture and video that i've seen.

so i've asked the seller if i need to replace the backlight - he replyed that SP12's never had illuminated backlights...
that it's been introduced in SP1200 ...??!

as on all pictures of SP12 that i find on the net there is no backlight... i presume it is true?

or?

thanks in advance for your help

sp1200.myfastforum.org  <-- is the sp12 /1200 forum

you may have better luck over there.

roginator:

The display model you used was "Winstar WH1602B"? And you purchased it on eBay for around USD $5?

Thanks,
rs