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General Category => EIII Technical Issues / Tips => Topic started by: toader on November 17, 2009, 11:21:23 PM



Title: I get a message - Zero in name ???
Post by: toader on November 17, 2009, 11:21:23 PM
So I got my EIII a while ago...  and I'm just starting to sample things.  Anyway...  I have a bunch of samples...  they are all named, and they have all been placed on keys.  When I go to make a loop though, I get a message that says "Zero in name".  What does this mean?  I have not used an zeroes in the sample names at all.  Anyway, maybe it's something simple.  I don't know...   any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd


Title: Re: I get a message - Zero in name ???
Post by: dr.c on November 21, 2009, 05:23:49 AM
I had a guy yelling at me once, telling that the name of his sample was full of zeroes, I looked at the display and it was written : Ooooooooo
I played and there were choirs singing "Oooooo"
I swear this is true !!!!

But the one you talk about, I damn don't know... Can you do this with only ione sample loaded in memory ?
Power your machine, no sample, sample a sound, and try.


Title: Re: I get a message - Zero in name ???
Post by: toader on November 21, 2009, 08:12:36 PM
I will try it with only a single sample loaded...

   Also, I just noticed that it renamed EVERY SINGLE SAMPLE loaded into memory!  I sampled my Moog in minor 3rds...  so I had sample names as follows:

C1 Moog Pulse
D#1 Moog Pulse
F#1 Moog Pulse
A1 Moog Pulse
C2 Moog Pulse
D#2 Moog Pulse
etc,
etc.

   Anyway...  I load up the bank now, and EVERYTHING is: "C1 Moog Pulse" - every single sample has that name!  -  AND...   when I go into "rename" them, the names don't appear at all.  So I hit the "down" arrow to delete a character, and then PART of the name appears...  the first 3 characters are all weird lines - like |||  and then the rest of the name appears...  so it looks like this:

|||||oog Pulse

This is SO SO SO weird...

I will try with only a single sample, but so far, this is very frustrating...  any ideas?  Something wrong with my sample RAM maybe?


Title: Re: I get a message - Zero in name ???
Post by: toader on November 21, 2009, 08:19:19 PM
I have 75 samples loaded into RAM.  If I click "sample"...  then "2" to "rename sample", and I select sample 26 for example - and name it "C1 Moog Pulse", everything after sample 26 is also "C1 Moog Pulse" (sample 27,28,29,etc).

This is so weird.  THEN, if I go in to "rename sample", before selecting which sample to rename, I can scroll up and down through the samples...  the names are all there, but they are all the same - C1 Moog Pulse.  When I finally stop on one of the samples - #27 for example which now says "C1 Moog Pulse", as soon as I hit "enter" in order to change it's name, the name vanishes!  There is nothing there and it allows me to start editing/entering a name.  NOW, if I hit the down arrow, it deletes a character, and part of the name appears there, but it looks like I describe above:

|||||oog Pulse

This is very weird and very frustrating to say the least...  I now have to rename 50 samples...  quite a time consuming process.  The names were all in there before I went through the looping process...  it's almost like going through the looping process somehow corrupted the names.  Yet the loops and sounds are fine.


Title: Re: I get a message - Zero in name ???
Post by: dvdborn on November 22, 2009, 02:59:20 AM
This is not normal behaviour. I'm guessing that this is a RAM problem.

You should do a RAM test and see if there are no errors:

Master > 8 > 0 > 1358 > 2


Title: Re: I get a message - Zero in name ???
Post by: toader on November 22, 2009, 01:21:18 PM
I did a RAM test but it says everything is ok.  There are a bunch of other calibration type tests in that menu you mention, but there is no reference to those menus in the manual.  I may need to get a service manual so I can go through all of those tests...  that would be helpful I think.  As far as the weird renaming issues, I'm going to keep messing with it - I will try this evening again.


Title: Re: I get a message - Zero in name ???
Post by: dr.c on November 23, 2009, 09:34:02 AM
THIS is strange...

Can you PLEASE MAKE  a sample, ONE sample made by YOU, with YOUR fingers, like I asked  ?

And see what happens ?