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Title: HELP! Post by: dekany03 on October 07, 2009, 12:53:49 PM Hi,
I need your help right now! I am looking for the following items: Emulator Emulator II Drumulator If you have one of these instruments, which still works, but is no longer used then please write me. I am a hard Depeche Mode / Alan Wilder fan, and I' ve decided to buy an instrument that they also used. I have a Roland S220 sampler with 20 QD-s by the way, which could be exchanged. Please note, that I live in the EU. Help! Thx in advance! Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dr.c on October 07, 2009, 02:40:29 PM This reminds me a guy who called me to ask the machine wich has the "Alphaville" sound...
Title: Re: HELP! Post by: Elmbeatz on October 08, 2009, 01:49:54 AM This reminds me a guy who called me to ask the machine wich has the "Alphaville" sound... :D :D :D Topicstarter: Emulators (I) are hard to find and making music with these things is hard too (as you can bet they WILL need servicing...) EIIs often go on ebay. These often need servicing, too. Keep in mind.... Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dr.c on October 08, 2009, 02:17:10 AM Anoter one called me once :
- I want to buy an electronic drum machine ! - Wich brand, wich model ? I asked - The one I saw on the book ! - Hummm.... are you a private, a distributor ? - Naa... I am from Aurillac (small city in France) ! Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dekany03 on October 08, 2009, 03:51:36 AM I don't want to be rude, but I think I have clearly specified which are the models that I want to buy. So please do not post stupid and violating comments. Thx for Elmbeatz. He posted the only intelligent reply. So thx mate!
Title: Re: HELP! Post by: Elmbeatz on October 08, 2009, 06:52:24 AM You should definitely go for the Emulator II if you're on this vintage DM vibe.
It's a very versatile and superb sounding instrument. And it BRINGS the DM sound, whether Doc agrees or not... ;) BUT (as I said) : prepare to have issues with it (which can be solved, especially with the help of the experts in this forum..). Considering the Drumulator: I think IF you want to buy a drummachine, go for the SP-12 (turbo). It features ROM sounds AND gives you user sampling (with THAT! sound) I won't sell my babies anyhow, good luck! Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dr.c on October 08, 2009, 08:10:41 AM Well, let's make things seriously but not taking ourselves seriously. I never wanted to be offending, I just wanted to say that your post reminded me that guy with the Alphaville sound.
It seems weird that you want to buy : "Emulator, Emulator II and Drumulator at once. Emulator and Emulator II... wich one is the first ? Emu III ? You wouldn't be that "touchy" (according to your answer), I would say that you have suicidal tendencies because its almost impossible to synchronize these machines together. Its possible in a studio, with digital equipment, and just by putting "flat" the tracks with the FSK speed piloting (wich has NOTHING to do with sync) and then, after, apply an offest on the specific track. Elmbeatz is quite right when he recommends you the SP12 Turbo because its synchronisable with the E2 by MIDI (but the MIDI sync in the E2 is bugged) or the SMPTE (but the SP12 Turbo SMPTE is bugged) ;D You just have to choose your bugs, Bunny ! ;) Well, it just happens that there are some occasional stumblings and there are ways to fix this, but depending of wich board version. Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dekany03 on October 08, 2009, 09:10:57 AM Well, I don't want to buy all items, that I mentioned. Only one of them. I thought that a worn Emulator would be fine, because it sounds great but it is still cheap enough. The same applies to the Drumulator. What should I do? Emulator is very rare on eBay.
Title: Re: HELP! Post by: 12bit on October 08, 2009, 02:20:03 PM Well yeah.
Those machines are hard to find, and takes some time maintaining - but it is worth it if you ask me. I have the Emulator, Emulator II+ and Emulator III (both the keyboard and rack version), and especially the old Emulator (1) needs a lot of servicing. It took some years to track them all down, and I got most of my stuff off eBay, and the rest from other 'collectors/musicans' that I got to know online or in real life. But I understand your lust for these machines - they do sound fantastic - they really do. I also have two Drumulators (one with the optional Pad Programmer), an SP12 Turbo, an EIIIXP, an e6400, an E6400 Ultra, two Emaxes and an Emax II and I love them all dearly :-) I wish you the best of luck finding and using these machines - don't forget to buy a pack of two of 5.25 inch floppies as well :-) KennethA 12bit.com Title: Re: HELP! Post by: Elmbeatz on October 09, 2009, 03:36:01 AM Well, I don't want to buy all items, that I mentioned. Only one of them. I thought that a worn Emulator would be fine, because it sounds great but it is still cheap enough. The same applies to the Drumulator. What should I do? Emulator is very rare on eBay. ?! An Emulator II should be cheaper than an Emulator I these days, as the Emu-I is pretty collectable by now (few were produced). I tell you - stick to the EII ! A drumulator won't give you anything but "bumm tschak tsss tsss". Title: Re: HELP! Post by: 12bit on October 09, 2009, 01:29:32 PM Well, I don't want to buy all items, that I mentioned. Only one of them. I thought that a worn Emulator would be fine, because it sounds great but it is still cheap enough. The same applies to the Drumulator. What should I do? Emulator is very rare on eBay. ?! An Emulator II should be cheaper than an Emulator I these days, as the Emu-I is pretty collectable by now (few were produced). I tell you - stick to the EII ! A drumulator won't give you anything but "bumm tschak tsss tsss". I agree with Elmbeatz here - but still the Drumulator has a very nice tone to it. I love it but it is NOT flexible sound wise :-). Of the Emulators you mention the EII is the one to go for - incredible sound and a vast library - not to forget the Sound Designer program for the old Apple Macs - amazing !! KennethA 12bit.com Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dekany03 on October 09, 2009, 02:37:59 PM Thx guys for your advices but how much money to expect? 100$ for a Drumulator and 800$ for an EII? Do you think that my Roland S220 can be exchanged for a worn Drumulator? I ask this because I use this sampler to play Drumulator samples, and I think a real Drumulator would be much better.
Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dr.c on October 10, 2009, 10:44:43 AM Can't you make your own idea by yourself ? Do you really need people to tell you these kinds of things ?
I mean that its like a guitar, only YOU can know wich guitar fits to you. Title: Re: HELP! Post by: Elmbeatz on October 12, 2009, 02:51:50 AM Thx guys for your advices but how much money to expect? 100$ for a Drumulator and 800$ for an EII? Do you think that my Roland S220 can be exchanged for a worn Drumulator? I ask this because I use this sampler to play Drumulator samples, and I think a real Drumulator would be much better. Ahemm... Comparing the EII to the Drumulator doesn't really work... The drumulator is a SIMPLE Drumcomputer with Rom Sounds. The EII is a 'complex' sampling synthesizer. Of course it's more expensive. The Drumulator is better in sound than your sampler, that's for sure. BUT it doesn't feature MIDI (except for a retrofit...) So, at this point you have to decide what needs you have. The prices you have in mind are correct. Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dekany03 on October 13, 2009, 02:58:10 AM Oh damn,
there is another Drumulator on ebay now, and I can't place a bid, because there is no international shipping. So, when you live in the States then here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MU-SYSTEMS-INC-DRUMULATOR_W0QQitemZ260490451080QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca670d888 p.s.: I want to trade my sampler to a Drumulator. When interested, please write! Title: Re: HELP! Post by: midipuppies on October 13, 2009, 06:41:00 AM I too am really into the Mode and understand your point of view when it comes to Alan Wilder.
It is the very reason that I got into E-mu samplers after I saw 101 and their Emax turbos on stage. But if you want my opinion, (this is purely from my findings in this sound quest) the Drumulator will not do you much good. Like the other guys have said, you will be much more pleased with an EII, EIII or any of the Emax line. I have a mint condition Drumulator that I have never even used in my studio. I just came across it for a good price and bought it just because. I doubt if I will ever actually use it for anything but a conversation piece. I have found that if you are new to E-mu stuff and sampling etc, then an Emax 1000 is a great starter unit for you to get your head around things. The reason for this (I found) was that the Emax 1000 only has half a meg or sample ram and that really makes you creative in the sounds/samples you create. You are always coming up with clever ways to come up with great material without running out of sample memory. And trust me, you will! That being said, I have two EII's that I have never even used as of yet because I have no operating disks for them and I need to upgrade/repair and retrofit them. I am waiting to get an old mac and software so that I can fully exploit all that the machine is capable of. My honest opinion for yourself would be to get into either an Emax or EII that need no work done to them. Plug and play. Hope you find what you are looking for! Title: Re: HELP! Post by: Elmbeatz on October 13, 2009, 06:46:39 AM @ midipuppies:
What's an Emax 1000?! ??? D'you mean the Emax 1? I'm with you - that one was my first sampler back then. great machine, super low price nowadays. YOU HAVE TWO EIIs AND DON'T USE THEM??????? :o :o It's time.... Title: Re: HELP! Post by: midipuppies on October 13, 2009, 07:03:41 AM I know! Got an O.S. disk???? ;D
Title: Re: HELP! Post by: Elmbeatz on October 13, 2009, 09:45:57 AM I know! Got an O.S. disk???? ;D ::) Of course I have! Where are you located? Title: Re: HELP! Post by: dekany03 on October 13, 2009, 09:49:16 AM Hey,
when you don't use your Drumulator, then trade it with me! :P Title: Re: HELP! Post by: 12bit on October 13, 2009, 01:23:37 PM I know! Got an O.S. disk???? ;D I have an OS disk as well - and live in Europe/Denmark. KennethA 12bit.com Title: Re: HELP! Post by: midipuppies on October 14, 2009, 06:59:05 AM I'm in Canada, where are you guys?
I just had to drive through a blizzard to get to work today. It sucked. Badly. Anyway, if anyone feels so inclined, I could Paypal funds to cover a disk and shipping. That would be great. Jay Title: Re: HELP! Post by: 12bit on October 16, 2009, 01:18:38 PM I'm in Canada, where are you guys? I just had to drive through a blizzard to get to work today. It sucked. Badly. Anyway, if anyone feels so inclined, I could Paypal funds to cover a disk and shipping. That would be great. Jay Since we're all friends here and all I'll send it to you for free - how's that ? Maybe some day I'm gonna need your service for something - who knows :-) Just email me your address (kenneth(a)12bit.com) and I'll have it shipped safely and well-protected asap. What you need is the latest OS for the EII on a 5.25 inch floppy - right ? The 3.1 ? KennethA 12bit.com Title: Re: HELP! Post by: midipuppies on October 16, 2009, 07:45:02 PM I would love that, but I would prefer I pay you something for your trouble.
Trust me, I know things come out in the wash, BUT I want to give you somethng. Email me at midipuppies@mac.com We can work something out. Thanks in advance, Jay |