E-mu Emulator Sampler User Forum for the EIII EII EI and EIII XP

General Category => EIII General Discussion => Topic started by: Elmbeatz on April 29, 2008, 03:58:31 AM



Title: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on April 29, 2008, 03:58:31 AM
Hi folks!

I've seen some mass storage devices and library disks for the EIII on ebay, and I want to know if anybody's got a good library collection besides the original E-mu CDs. I'm looking for all kinds of Instruments, especially vintage analog Synth banks. But also sax and other brass stuff (simply everything). I'm mostly using my Emulators as 'sample players', instruments you know...

Greetz,
Elm.


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: rokuez on April 29, 2008, 08:00:30 AM
Northstar has a ton of EIII sample cds


http://www.northstarsamples.com/EmuMenu.html

I've never tried these.  Can anyone comment on them?


There is also a German Company that released Emu sample cds.  Can't recall their name at the moment.



Title: Re: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on April 29, 2008, 09:30:31 AM
The quantity of northstar seems a little disappointing... the selection of instruments sounds pretty boring, too..
then the price!

I'd really like to have something like the EII-OMI library, which is sooo big and excellent...
Any other ideas for resources?

greetz,
Elm.


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: dvdborn on April 29, 2008, 01:10:51 PM
I've got a CD-ROM called State of the art Vol.1. from Käng-kong productions

This is a EIII/EIIIx compatible CD-ROMs. It's a mix of original samples and samples from old gear (Kurzweil K250, Fairlight, Microwave, ...)
The CD-ROM isn't excellent, but that's just my opinion.

More info about it on the bottom of this page:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/oct94/emue111x.html?print=yes (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/oct94/emue111x.html?print=yes)

David


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: rokuez on April 29, 2008, 01:32:56 PM
The quantity of northstar seems a little disappointing... the selection of instruments sounds pretty boring, too..
then the price!

I'm guessing you meant quality not quantity?  or if not it seemed like they had a good deal of sample library cds.

What cd's of their have u heard?  I was really interested in northstar's Symphonique

http://www.northstarsamples.com/SymphoniqueEIII.html

the phase 1, 2, 3 cds looked decent as well.

I've used an 808 sample kit from northstar for the Emu Sp and it sounded great. 

Due to their expensive price I was under the impression that these would be really nice samples... perhaps not.

I'd really like to have something like the EII-OMI library, which is sooo big and excellent...
Any other ideas for resources?

greetz,
Elm.

EII-OMI is that the stock sample set that E-mu made for the EII?  If not can u tell me a little bit more please?


thanks for that info dvdborn.


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on April 30, 2008, 02:43:05 AM
David:
I've got the State of the Art CD-Rom, and that one's really good I can tell, especially a featured Boesendorfer Grand Piano is REALLY impressive.

But the selection of other synths is pretty pale compared to the EII OMI selection. You've got any sound imaginable coming with any expression settings imaginable (nearly).

Roquez:
No, I'm not speaking of the E-mu library itself. OMI was the first company which supplied a CD Rom drive for the EII, coming with THREE CDs FULL of EII banks. Due to the fact that an EII bank just takes 500 kb space, the quantity of sounds was (and to me still is) amazing, as well as the quality. There's a total of more than 1000 banks I think. Each bank contains appx. 20 presets, varying in all kinds of settings - brilliant.

I miss such kind of a "sound paradise" for the EIII.

BTW.: The Symphonic collection of Northstar to me seems to be the most interesting one, too.

Greetz,
Elm.


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: dvdborn on April 30, 2008, 03:03:41 AM
About 10 years ago Time & Space released several EIII Sample CD's from the Synclavier library.

I always wanted them but at the time they were too expensive for me. Time & Space still exists but they don't sell the CD's anymore.

Here's some info about the sample CD's:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan00/articles/synclavier_orch.htm (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan00/articles/synclavier_orch.htm)

I'd love to have/buy a copy of them.

David



Title: EIII Library on ebay
Post by: dvdborn on June 01, 2008, 06:56:43 AM
Not mine. But someone might be interested:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Emulator-III-lot-of-sample-libraries-EIII_W0QQitemZ160244369741QQihZ006QQcategoryZ41785QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Emulator-III-lot-of-sample-libraries-EIII_W0QQitemZ160244369741QQihZ006QQcategoryZ41785QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: massimo on October 10, 2008, 05:25:23 AM
Hi all,
I am new to the club.
I bought an E3 rack with the original Emu CD's (minus #3). I too am looking for more sounds, mostly symphonic and analog synths. Also, since my use of the box is playing real time and recording, I would ideally prefer one instrument sampled at its best rather than hundreds of little bits of everything in each bank. I have checked the northstar website (thanks to rokuez), but I see most samples are much more than the 8Mb Ram that is available on the E3. So these should be unplayable on an E3, right? Or am I wrong?
Any advice?
Thanks

best regards
Massimo


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on October 10, 2008, 06:09:06 AM
Yes, if a bank is bigger than 8MB, it can't be loaded. Those are meant for EIII XPs.

Currently, I'm also strongly interested in a symphonic EIII library.
If anybody knows a good one, or even has a good one, get at us!  :)


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: dvdborn on October 10, 2008, 06:15:46 AM
What you could do is load an individual instrument instead of the whole bank. Often the individual instruments are <8MB.

When I had only 4MB in my EIII I used to load instruments from 8MB banks that were otherwise not accessible to me.

David


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: massimo on October 10, 2008, 08:01:41 AM
What you could do is load an individual instrument instead of the whole bank. Often the individual instruments are <8MB.

When I had only 4MB in my EIII I used to load instruments from 8MB banks that were otherwise not accessible to me.

David

I thought you could only load entire banks via its fron panel (i.e. dedicated switch)...or not?

best regards
Massimo


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: dvdborn on October 10, 2008, 08:06:00 AM
No, you can load individual instruments from a bank.
Just select Preset Management and Load Preset.

You can also load individual samples from instruments.
Select Sample > Load Sample

David


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: massimo on October 10, 2008, 11:16:49 AM
thanks all!
So, has anyone tried those northstar cd's with an E3 yet?

best regards
Massimo


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: esynthesist on October 10, 2008, 12:13:26 PM
Quote
but I see most samples are much more than the 8Mb Ram that is available on the E3. So these should be unplayable on an E3, right? Or am I wrong?

Another possibility is to convert those EIIIX banks to 'normal' EIII banks, and put these banks on another CD-ROM.
EMXP supports this. It can read the EIIIX bank from the original CDROMs, convert them to EIII banks (with choice between 4M and 8M banks) and put these banks on a CD ISO image which can be burned to a new EIII CDROM with any CD burning software.
Of course a 32 MB bank EIIIX will not fit into one 8 MB bank, but EMXP will try to create multiple 8MB banks in that case. This conversion process may take some time, but most of the time it works  :)


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on October 10, 2008, 01:31:22 PM
Quote
but I see most samples are much more than the 8Mb Ram that is available on the E3. So these should be unplayable on an E3, right? Or am I wrong?

Another possibility is to convert those EIIIX banks to 'normal' EIII banks, and put these banks on another CD-ROM.
EMXP supports this. It can read the EIIIX bank from the original CDROMs, convert them to EIII banks (with choice between 4M and 8M banks) and put these banks on a CD ISO image which can be burned to a new EIII CDROM with any CD burning software.
Of course a 32 MB bank EIIIX will not fit into one 8 MB bank, but EMXP will try to create multiple 8MB banks in that case. This conversion process may take some time, but most of the time it works  :)

HAH HAH!  EMXP yeah. PRO STYLE!
Emulator anyone?
You found your home here!!   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: galaxiesmerge on January 10, 2009, 01:01:34 AM
The quantity of northstar seems a little disappointing... the selection of instruments sounds pretty boring, too..
then the price!

I'd really like to have something like the EII-OMI library, which is sooo big and excellent...
Any other ideas for resources?

greetz,
Elm.

Hi folks - I just bought an EIII keyboard w/8 megs. I have in the past been an original owner (along with Fairlights and this is one heck of a great instrument).  I do have Northstar and the prices are ridiculous for the sounds they provide.  Sample you favorite VST instruments in EIII and use those --- much better with the analog circuitry.  You can do better by designing and sampling sounds using a VST instrument (like the Arp 2600 by Way Out Ware) and then applying the EIII Filters for that reall fat analog sound.  Paying 250$ or whatever is a waste.  On the other hand, if the price came down to 25-50$, given the age of these libraries, then some of them are quite worthwhile.  I have the original CDROMS and some of them have deteriorated (perhaps use, perhaps other causes) to the point of no longer being readable (by anything, even MOTU's Mach 5 which can read Emu disks!). 
FYI - here's my old analog CS80 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guzvcHNwJOI
If there's enough interest I could sample my CS80 and provide the samples for a minimum cost (small labor and materials).  Or you could sample the Arturia CS80V. Let me know if you like.  I have not seen a CS80 sample set for the EIII.


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on January 11, 2009, 07:53:57 AM
Wow!
That baby's rare....


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on March 10, 2009, 02:41:32 AM
Hello!

I have more than 60 CD-roms for the Emulator. I think, maybe I have everything for the E-III, the E-IIIX and ca. 2500 soundbanks for the E-II, many are converted for Mac-remote using.

That's quite a lot.
Can you give any details?


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: rokuez on March 14, 2009, 07:59:00 PM
Hello!

I have more than 60 CD-roms for the Emulator. I think, maybe I have everything for the E-III, the E-IIIX and ca. 2500 soundbanks for the E-II, many are converted for Mac-remote using.

That's quite a lot.
Can you give any details?

This character supersurrexit was a scammer.  He also admitted that he was the ebay seller selling the EIII that was supposedly modified.

supersurrexit wouldn't answer anything directly when asked about the mods.  He would only claim that it was very complicated, but he would never offer any details.  Furthermore he wasn't willing to have another EIII forum member visit him personally in Hungary Budapest to verify that he could indeed modify an EIII. 

He is now banned from the Emulator Forum.


Title: Re: libraries
Post by: Elmbeatz on March 16, 2009, 03:17:33 AM
oha.....   :o