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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2009, 02:36:00 AM »

 Roll Eyes

Anyone knows how to install a jog dial to the DPX? (for use instead of the up down buttons..)
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2009, 07:04:40 PM »

Does anyone know which sampler used what analog chips?  Are they the same chip model?
Which unit is warmer?

What about a EII vs. Prophet 2000 comparison? 



Don't answer your question...only to complete the list Wink

Sampler with analog filters/vcas:

Korg DSS1, DSM1 (DSM without resonance), Casio FZ1 and his rack and Hohner-Brothers (yes they have analog filters, in "digital" 1986 it wasn't chic -  a reason why it is not in the ads), All Prophet-Samplers. A little bit LoFi but great, Ensoniq Mirage! and last but not least the Fairlights...
(Emax, EII, EIII, DPX1 is known here Wink)
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2009, 04:38:24 AM »

A while ago, April 2007 to be exact,  I compiled a list of all commericial samplers with analogue filters and which type of filter they used.

you can find the list here: http://dvdborn.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html

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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2009, 07:07:58 AM »

A while ago, April 2007 to be exact,  I compiled a list of all commericial samplers with analogue filters and which type of filter they used.

you can find the list here: http://dvdborn.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html

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THX Smiley Very interesting
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2009, 01:59:59 PM »

Yes - I am a geek.

I have now compared the transposition (and filters) of the Emulator II+ and Emax samplers.
I have included the original Emulator (Emulator 1) in the transposition comparison, but not in the filter comparison as it doesn't have a traditional cutoff/resonance filter.

Transposition comparison:

Here is the reference choir sample I chose to sample:
http://www.12bit.com/Emulator_Sampler_Comparison/Reference_Choir_Sample_For_Transposition.mp3

It was shot to all three samplers at the same time as close to 0dB as possible. So what I fed to the samplers is the same 1.2 second sample.

I then did nothing but setting up MAX transposition (up/down) so what you hear is the max transposition span of a single sample in any of the three samplers.

Here is the Emax:
http://www.12bit.com/Emulator_Sampler_Comparison/Emax_Transposition.mp3

Here is the Emulator:
http://www.12bit.com/Emulator_Sampler_Comparison/Emulator_Transposition.mp3

Here is the Emulator II+:
http://www.12bit.com/Emulator_Sampler_Comparison/EmulatorII_Transposition.mp3

Filter comparison:

I created a saw sample in Wavelab 6, and again it was shot to both samplers at the very same time at max level (as close to 0dB as possible).

Max resonance and mid cutoff. An envelope was set up to contol the cutoff to make it fall quickly.
Set up on the Emax and Emulator II+ is as similar as possible.

In all honesty I was surprised that the Emax was THAT much more aggressive sounding - but that's the reality. The Emulator II is well known for it's soft sounding filters - and here they are.

Emax:
http://www.12bit.com/Emulator_Sampler_Comparison/Emax_Filters.mp3

Emulator II+:
http://www.12bit.com/Emulator_Sampler_Comparison/EmulatorII_Filters.mp3

You can download all files in one convenient ZIP file if you like:
http://www.12bit.com/Emulator_Sampler_Comparison/Emu_Sampler_Comparison.zip

Love to you all !

KennethA
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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2009, 02:05:31 PM »

I love these geek comparisons.  Grin

My vote goes to the EII+ for both tests.

It has the nicest sound of them all to me ears. Even the filters.

David
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2009, 02:23:47 AM »

EII for sure.

little bit of strangelove eh?  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2009, 01:40:13 PM »

EII for sure.

little bit of strangelove eh?  Wink

Well .. Isn't it a strange love we have for these old samplers ? And for old DM tracks as well :-)

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