Filter Settings on multiple voices / presets

[Elmbeatz]

Hi Folks!

I'm a little bit confused.
Yesterday I played around with my "spare" - EII (which has no RS422) and it worked REALLY well, considering it was not powered on for a year or so...
All voices brilliant, no distorted filters and so on.

But when I adjusted the filter settings for preset01 (I chose "all voices on the keyboard"), and afterwards switched over to preset02, I found that the filter settings I did for preset01 applied also to preset02!   

Am I dull? Have I forgotten something about filter settings?
Or is there a ghost in the machine?

All the Best,
Elm.

[esynthesist]

Well... as far as I remember (from the time I really "used" my EII instead of looking to its electronics and software  ) it is prefectly possible to assign the same voice to more than one preset.
So if your preset2 uses exactly the same voices as preset1, then the parameters of these voices will be shared across the presets too of course.
And filter settings are voice parameters, not preset parameters.

What do you think ?

[Elmbeatz]

Okay, that's the answer. CONGRATS!! 

I also REPLICATED a preset, which then had independent voices and settings.

The Emax really has an improved management concerning these things...

If I replicate a preset (not copy) - are all of its voices digitally duplicated, too? (which would decrease the sampling time, of course... )

[esynthesist]

If I replicate a preset (not copy) - are all of its voices digitally duplicated, too?

No. Only the voice parameter sections are cloned, and a preset parameter section is added.
The samples themselves are still shared.
So this would only require a few hundred additional bytes of parameter data...
Note that truncation settings (and of course also loop settings) are stored as voice parameters; so if the sample to be truncated in Voice1/Preset1 is also used by another voice (Voice2/Preset2) which doesn't need the truncation, then the EII is actually capable of dealing with that without having to clone the sample or without sharing the truncation for all voices where the sample is used.
The data model design of the EII banks is messy, but there are actually some smart parts in it 
(if I remember well, the Emax is not that advanced with this kind of stuff...)

[Elmbeatz]

Great!

Thanks A LOT !